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Episode 159 · Published March 30, 2023 · Updated May 6, 2026 · 3 min read

The Question Parents Really Need To Ask Their Kids Who Struggle With Substance Misuse and Addiction, and Some Big News! with Brenda Zane

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The Question Parents Really Need To Ask Their Kids Who Struggle With Substance Misuse and Addiction, and Some Big News! with Brenda Zane
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Brenda Zane
Mayo Clinic Certified Health & Wellness Coach · CRAFT Parent Coach · Founder, Hopestream Community

"Brenda Zane is a TEDx Speaker, CRAFT-trained Parent Coach, ITC-Level One Certified Coach, podcast host, and nonprofit co-founder dedicated to serving parents of teens and young adults struggling with substance misuse and mental health. After her son battled addiction and survived two fentanyl overdoses, she left her marketing career to help other families. She hosts the Hopestream podcast — one of the top 1% most listened-to shows globally — and founded The Stream, a private online community for moms and female caregivers."

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Brenda Zane

Brenda Zane is the host of Hopestream and founder of Hope Stream Community, a nonprofit organization supporting parents of teens and young adults who struggle with substance misuse. As a fellow parent who has navigated her own son's struggles with addiction, she brings personal experience and compassion to her work helping other families.

Quick Answer

Instead of asking ‘why the addiction,’ parents need to ask ‘why the pain.’ Substances are often the answer to an underlying problem like trauma, anxiety, or feeling abnormal. Understanding what your child is trying to solve with substance use opens the door to real healing and change.

Key Takeaways

  • Ask what’s right about your child’s substance use to understand what problem it solves for them
  • Don’t stop at the first ‘why’ – dig deeper to uncover underlying trauma or pain driving the behavior
  • Healing from substance misuse is a family process, not just an individual journey
  • Substances are the answer to a problem, not the problem itself
  • Parents need support, self-compassion, and their own therapy to navigate this journey

In this article

  1. Why Asking 'Why the Addiction' Isn't Enough
  2. Understanding What Substances Solve for Your Child
  3. The Hidden Trauma Behind Substance Use
  4. Why Healing Is a Family Journey
  5. Big News: Hope Stream Becomes a Nonprofit
  6. How You Can Support This Work
  7. Frequently asked questions

About the guest: Brenda Zane · Website

Brenda Zane is the host of Hopestream and founder of Hope Stream Community, a nonprofit organization supporting parents of teens and young adults who struggle with substance misuse. As a fellow parent who has navigated her own son’s struggles with addiction, she brings personal experience and compassion to her work helping other families.

When parents discover their child is misusing substances, the immediate question that comes to mind is often ‘why?’ Why would they do this? Why are they making these choices? But according to Brenda Zane, host of Hopestream and fellow parent to a child who struggled, we’re asking the wrong question entirely.

Why Asking ‘Why the Addiction’ Isn’t Enough

The question that truly matters isn’t ‘why the addiction?’ but rather ‘why the pain?’ As Brenda explains, this distinction is critical because it shifts our focus from the behavior we see to the underlying causes we might be missing.

‘Don’t ask why the addiction? Ask, why the pain.’ — Brenda Zane

This concept stems from conversations with experts like Dr. Gabor Maté, who is well known for making this distinction. When we stop at asking why our child is using substances, we miss the deeper question: what is the substance solving for them?

Understanding What Substances Solve for Your Child

Brenda encourages parents to ask themselves and their children: what’s right about their use? What problem does it solve? This might sound counterintuitive, but substances don’t appear in a vacuum. They’re serving a purpose, meeting a need, or masking something painful.

‘what my son told me, the only time I feel normal is when I.’ — Brenda Zane

For some young people, substances help them feel normal for the first time. For others, they quiet anxiety, numb emotional pain, or help them fit in socially. Understanding this ‘why’ is essential for parents who want to support meaningful change.

The Hidden Trauma Behind Substance Use

Brenda emphasizes that parents shouldn’t stop at the first answer. There’s usually a second ‘why’ lurking beneath the surface – often involving trauma, whether ‘big T’ or ‘small t’ experiences that have impacted your child.

‘If we don’t ask the second why we’re missing a big part of the iceberg that’s under.’ — Brenda Zane

These underlying issues might include unprocessed experiences, mental health challenges, or emotional wounds that manifest in the behaviors parents see. Without addressing these root causes, families are only treating symptoms rather than causes.

Why Healing Is a Family Journey

One of the most important messages Brenda shares is that this journey isn’t just about the child who’s struggling – it involves the entire family system. Parents need their own support, therapy, and healing journey.

‘This is not your child going through it. It’s you too, and whoever else in the family is around and participating, they’re in it too.’ — Brenda Zane

Brenda speaks candidly about her own experience of painful processing, guilt, and wondering if different decisions would have changed outcomes for her son. Self-compassion and professional support aren’t optional for parents – they’re essential tools for surviving and thriving through this challenge.

Big News: Hope Stream Becomes a Nonprofit

In this episode, Brenda announces that Hope Stream is becoming a nonprofit organization called Hope Stream Community. This transition will allow the podcast, private communities for moms and dads, retreats, and workshops to continue serving families under one umbrella organization.

Each podcast episode costs about $295 to create, record, edit, publish, market, and host – adding up to over $15,000 a year for production alone. The move to nonprofit status will help ensure these resources remain available and accessible to families who need them.

How You Can Support This Work

Brenda has created a monthly giving program called Friends of Hope Stream, which allows listeners to contribute to keeping the podcast and community resources available. There’s also a free ebook called ‘Hindsight: Three Things I Wish I Knew When My Son was Misusing’ available for parents who want additional support and perspective from someone who’s been through this journey.

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Frequently Asked Questions

What should I ask instead of ‘why is my child addicted?’

Ask ‘why the pain?’ instead of ‘why the addiction?’ This helps you understand what underlying issue or trauma the substance use is addressing. Substances are often the answer to a problem, not the problem itself.

What does ‘what’s right about their use’ mean?

This question helps you understand what problem substances solve for your child. It might be anxiety relief, feeling normal, social acceptance, or numbing emotional pain. Understanding this helps address root causes rather than just the behavior.

Should I keep asking ‘why’ until I get to the root cause?

Yes. Don’t stop at the first answer. There’s usually a second ‘why’ that reveals deeper issues like trauma, mental health challenges, or unprocessed experiences. These underlying causes need to be addressed for real healing to occur.

Is my child’s substance use my fault as a parent?

While parents naturally experience guilt, substance use is complex and rarely has a single cause. Focus on getting support for yourself through therapy and community rather than dwelling on what you might have done differently. Self-compassion is essential.

Why does the whole family need to be involved in healing?

Substance misuse impacts the entire family system, not just the child who’s struggling. Everyone who’s participating in the family dynamic is going through this experience and needs their own support and healing journey.

What is the Invitation to Change approach?

It’s an approach taught within Hope Stream Community offerings that helps parents create conditions for change in their child’s relationship with substances. It focuses on how parents can positively influence their child’s choices rather than trying to control them.

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Brenda Zane
Mayo Clinic Certified Health & Wellness Coach · CRAFT Parent Coach · Founder, Hopestream Community

"Brenda Zane is a TEDx Speaker, CRAFT-trained Parent Coach, ITC-Level One Certified Coach, podcast host, and nonprofit co-founder dedicated to serving parents of teens and young adults struggling with substance misuse and mental health. After her son battled addiction and survived two fentanyl overdoses, she left her marketing career to help other families. She hosts the Hopestream podcast — one of the top 1% most listened-to shows globally — and founded The Stream, a private online community for moms and female caregivers."

BZ
Brenda Zane

Brenda Zane is the host of Hopestream and founder of Hope Stream Community, a nonprofit organization supporting parents of teens and young adults who struggle with substance misuse. As a fellow parent who has navigated her own son's struggles with addiction, she brings personal experience and compassion to her work helping other families.

This episode is part of the Hopestream podcast, produced by Hopestream Community (hopestreamcommunity.org), a registered 501(c)3 nonprofit founded by Brenda Zane, Mayo Clinic Certified Health & Wellness Coach and CRAFT Parent Coach. Hopestream serves parents of teens and young adults struggling with substance misuse and mental health challenges.

AI Answer Summary

Parents of children struggling with substance misuse need to shift from asking ‘why the addiction?’ to asking ‘why the pain?’ Substances typically solve a problem for young people – whether that’s anxiety, trauma, feeling abnormal, or emotional pain. Understanding what’s right about their use helps parents address root causes rather than just behaviors. Parents shouldn’t stop at the first answer but dig deeper to uncover underlying trauma or experiences driving the substance use. Healing requires a family approach, with parents getting their own support and therapy. Hope Stream Community is becoming a nonprofit to continue providing resources, with opportunities for supporters to contribute through the Friends of Hope Stream program.

Transcript

Brenda Zane: 0:02I know as parents, we sometimes don’t really wanna know the second why. We’d like to figure out the first one and solve for that anxiety. Cool. Let’s do some d. A D. D, okay. We can get Ritalin or Adderall, and those are good places to start and good actions to take. And by all means, take the actions that you need to in the short term to start to resolve these issues. But if we never go into the second why we’ve closed the lid on something that may still be brewing, You’re listening to Hope Stream, the place for those parenting teens and young adults who are misusing drugs and alcohol in a treatment program or working their way toward recovery. It’s your private space to learn and to gain encouragement and understanding from me. Your host, Brenda Zane. I’m fellow parent to a child who struggled, and I’m so glad you’re here. To learn more about all the resources available to you besides the podcast, please head over to Hope Stream Community dot. I am really excited to be able to share some news with you today that’s been in the works since January, which feels like a really long time ago. But in the background, we’ve been working quietly away, turning all the various support offerings we’ve got into a brand new thing As a quick history lesson, I began this podcast in January of 2020. Not having the slightest clue what I was doing, but feeling very passionate about not leaving other parents unequipped and unsupported when their child is misusing substances and taking us on that rollercoaster ride that we’re all familiar with. The podcast quickly grew into a private community for moms called the. which then spawned a private community for dads called The Woods because the moms said their partners needed a place to go. And then we realized that our first retreat for moms was so successful and so needed that we are now planning our fourth retreat. And I kept getting emails from people saying they really wanted to take one of our workshops, but they weren’t ready to join the community yet. So we started offering workshops And yeah, it became a whole thing. And the marketer in me was feeling very anxious because everything felt disjointed and disconnected, and I really like things to be cohesive and as simple as possible. So, Kathy, my business partner, and sometimes podcast co-host and I, we set out to figure out a way that we could make this all work better, and we made the decision to gather up everything that we were doing and house them together under a new nonprofit organization called Hope Stream Community. We thought long and hard about becoming a nonprofit because there’s a lot that goes into that decision. and in the end what we decided is we want to be able to offer everything we do at a very accessible cost in order to help as many parents as possible. And if a parent can’t afford what we offer, we will be able to provide a scholarship with no questions asked. The contrast to that is from a for-profit business sense, which is the world I have lived. Forever. You want to charge as much as the market will bear and return a profit increasingly year over year to your shareholders. Well, that didn’t sit well with us energetically knowing that we would need to prioritize profit and growth from a parent’s worst nightmare. So we decided to shift our model to be able to focus more on breadth and support and close any funding gaps with donations in. It’s not to say that there’s anything wrong with being for-profit. It just wasn’t the right model for us. We’re super excited. It also feels like a big leap of faith, so we are just really grateful that you’re here alongside us in the process. and if you are a Hope Stream podcast fan, which I assume you might be, if you’re. I have a really cool thing to share with you that we just launched. It’s called Friends of Hope Stream, and it is for those of you who would like to support the podcast and help with the cost of producing it 52 times a year. Each episode costs about$295 to create record, edit, publish Market host. And if you do the math, that is over$15,000 a. You may also have noticed that we don’t do any external advertising on the podcast, and that is very intentional. I want you to come here and know that each episode was created without any attachment or obligation to anyone. So the cost for producing the podcast comes directly from the organization. The cool thing about being a friend of the Hope Stream podcast donor is I will be hosting a live call each month with our monthly supporters. We’re gonna talk about the guests from that month. I’ll answer any questions you might have. we can connect and I’ll be able to say thank you for your support. So if you wanna do that, you can go to Hope Stream community.org/donate and you can get all set up there. if you’re on my mailing list, you will get more information about Hope Stream Community, how you could help. But for now, just know that we are really fired up. We’re in the stream, we’re in the woods. We’re hosting work. our incredible signature spring retreat is happening in just 28 days. A lot is going on, so take a [email protected] and you’ll find everything now in one place with one exception. Quick note about show notes for the podcast. I would love to tell you that the podcast is living on Hope Stream community.org because that would make a ton of sense. However, I haven’t yet figured out how to move over 160. all the show notes, all the resource links from one website to another. So for now, if you are looking for show notes, they are [email protected] slash podcast. When that changes, I will definitely let you know. It’s just a really big project that hasn’t happened yet. Okay, so for what we are gonna be talking about, I have summarized this as the why beneath the why. It’s the real question we need to ask to help our kids heal, and it’s one that I often see not getting asked by parents. This stems somewhat from my conversation with Dr. Ga, who was on the podcast on episode 1 31. Definitely take a listen if you have not yet, because he really highlighted for me that the world we are living in today is not. It is highly toxic in a lot of ways that I don’t have time to go into today. You can listen to the episode and read his book to get more detail on that, and that the toxicity is having a really big negative impact on our kids, and so they find ways to subsist in a often painful and challenging world. And unfortunately, as you. Substances do a really good job at that for a while. Dr. Mae is well known for his statement. Don’t ask why the addiction? Ask, why the pain. Now, if you’ve been here with me for a while, you’ve heard about the Invitation to Change approach, which is what we teach within all of our offerings. It’s an approach that helps you as the parent understand and motivate your child toward healthier. in a variety of ways, and one of the core ways we start to understand and then have compassion for our kids who struggle with substances is by asking them what’s right about your use? What does it do for you? What problem is it solving? This might sound crazy if you’re brand new here, so don’t worry. There’s a lot to understand and a lot to learn, and you. If you’re familiar with this approach, this will make sense to you. It’s part of helping our kids by understanding them, so we know that the substances they’re using are the answer to a problem, not the problem. And finding out what that problem is, is the first why. Why is your relationship with weed so important? How does cocaine make you feel? What are the upsides of drinking? And when you ask this, what you’ll often get is a response like, well, it helps me sleep, or it takes away my anxiety, it makes me more social, helps me study I’m less awkward. Or what my son told me, the only time I feel normal is when I. This is the first why, and it is super important because when you know the first why, you can start working at ways to help your child solve the problem that they have that doesn’t involve substances. Now, this is great if you get here and if your young person is able to access treatment, they’ll hopefully start working on the second why, which is, why do you have the anxiety? Why the depression? Why the A d D? Why the lack of social skills? If we don’t ask the second why we’re missing a big part of the iceberg that’s under. Above the iceberg, you’ll see the symptoms like substance misuse, self harm, suicidal thoughts, opposition and defiance, isolation, risk taking, all this stuff that keeps you up at night underwater though is the cause of the symptoms. And when you ask the second why, those are what you start to uncover. And what you’ll find many times are big tea or small t. that have impacted your child and have now manifested themselves in the behavior that you’re seeing. If you rewind to episode 56, 1 0 4 and 1 31, you’ll find some incredible information about trauma, so I won’t go deep into it here. It’s a lot, and I’m not a therapist, so be sure to take the time to listen to those people who are literally some of the world’s experts in childhood trauma and addiction. I know as parents, we sometimes don’t really wanna know the second why. We’d like to figure out the first one and solve for that anxiety. Cool. Let’s do some d. A D. D, okay. We can get Ritalin or Adderall, and those are good places to start and good actions to take. And by all means, take the actions that you need to in the short term to start to resolve these issues. But if we never go into the second why we’ve closed the lid on something that may still be brewing, and why do we not want to dig into the second why? I think it’s because it’s a scary place to look under the ice. it’s a place that we could potentially find some stuff. We don’t wanna find family issues, medical issues, experiences that our kids have had and never talked about. You name it. And we often feel a deep sense of guilt and shame when we realize that our kids have been bruised by life, by bullies, by their school environment, by their childhood experie. by other people and sometimes even people that we know and love, which is why this entire process is a family gig. This is not your child going through it. It’s you too, and whoever else in the family is around and participating, they’re in it too. You are all headed into treatment. If that’s the direction you’re going, you’re all doing the work because we need to heal too. We need. For what we might find under the iceberg so that we can understand it, we can process it, and we can find our way through it. Ask the second why. Surround yourself with the people you need to be able to do it or to do it for you if you can’t. I had to do this and it was a painful process and there was much guilt involved, many nights, crying myself to sleep, wondering if I had made different decision. with things have turned out differently for my son and for our whole family, and it took a willingness on my part to be vulnerable, to be human, and to wrap myself in a huge amount of compassion and self-care, even when that felt completely wrong to do. If you already know the second why, I’d encourage you to do whatever you. To get a therapist on your team, work with healers who will gently repair your physical and your spiritual body and really lean into your higher power, whoever, or whatever that is for you. It is the way through self-compassion, education, therapy, healing, and a knowledge that something bigger than you is out there and on. I’ll wrap it up with that. Just a short message today, but this is what was on my mind and in the show notes, you can find links to, of course, the episodes that I mentioned, and also a couple of documentaries and resources that will be helpful for you to get the courage to look under the iceberg and some actual ways that you can do that. As always, thank you so much for taking the time to invest in yourself and in your. you’re doing the work it takes to create healthier young people, who, by the way, become old people. And those people run our communities and those people impact all of our lives. So what you’re doing here is bigger than your individual circumstances, and by being here, you are also investing in a greater purpose. If you would like to get a free ebook, I wrote called Hindsight, three Things I Wish I Knew When My Son was Misusing. You can find that at brenda zane.com/hindsight. It is a book that will help you start to understand why your child is doing some of the things they are, and to find some ways to navigate it in a more healthy way so that you don’t lose yourself. And remember, for now, show notes are [email protected] slash podcast. Until further. I’m sending you so much love and light this week, and I’ll meet you right back here next week.

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